Tuesday, January 10, 2006

KFSM Fill-in Met Fired at Full-time Gig

KFSM fill-in met George Flickinger has been fired from his full time gig at KOKI in Tulsa for interrupting an NFL game Mayes county residents of an evacuation order due to wildfires.

45 Comments:

At 8:14 PM, January 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all I don't understand that sentence.

And second of all...if he got canned from his full-time gig, I guess he's not a fill in anymore.

Let's see if KFSM hires him full-time. Or maybe he can run over to KHOG and work with Salser.

 
At 8:19 PM, January 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, it's stupid to fire someone for letting people know they could be in danger.

And second...

I would rather be canned than work for Salser...

 
At 8:37 PM, January 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn it people, if you're going to refer to him use his full name ... Chief Meteorologist Charles Salser.

Ask him, he'll tell you to include his title.

 
At 8:59 PM, January 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I echo the second poster.

I would rather have my crotch set on fire with ethanol and jump into a pit of rabid scorpions than work one more day with Charles. But why work for either station? They're both a step down from Tulsa.

 
At 2:04 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank god I didn't consider going to KOKI. Is that station THAT bad?

And damn...the Charles Salser bashing continues into 2006. I am just going to sit back and see what gets posted about him this time, because I must say, it's so wrong...but OH so entertaining. :-)

 
At 6:47 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what I heard....apparently, he cut into programming for some of the wild fires in Tulsa...managment didn't like his decision, so they gave him the royal boot.

"I would rather have my crotch set on fire with ethanol and jump into a pit of rabid scorpions than work one more day with Charles."

I was hoping you would rather casterate yourself with a play-do knife!

 
At 6:55 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all I don't understand that sentence.

And second of all...if he got canned from his full-time gig, I guess he's not a fill in anymore.

What don't you understand...he's not full time anymore..so he's fill in at KFSM

 
At 8:45 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Tulsa newspaper says Emergency Management asked him to get immediate word out about an evacuation. He did. The ND then fired him for doing it because he interrupted a ballgame. That fire, according to the paper, leveled 19 homes and 4 business.

 
At 9:03 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the guy should be given a pat on the back instead of the boot... I mean, come on people - it's a BALL GAME vs. possible lose of human lives and property. The Emergency Management ASKED him to do it. What call would any of us make considering all details in the situation? I would HOPE the same... I say "Good going George!!"

 
At 9:23 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This goes back to the debate on cut-ins period. People seem not to care about human life, but more for entertainment. Boy do we have our priorities screwed up!

 
At 11:20 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe managment was looking for a reason to fire the guy.

 
At 11:21 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Problem solved: Run a crawl on the bottom of the screen with all the information Mayes Co viewers could possibly want. I can understand why the ND at KOKI was upset. Their met cut in on the only moneymaker (the NFL) that they have on that #4 station.

 
At 11:35 AM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sounds to me like he got a pretty raw deal...i'd say the ND is the one who should get canned...sounds like a real a** hole...and i didn't understand the original post sentence either...seems like it was missing a few words

 
At 12:27 PM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spent some time at that station and to answer the question of the 5th poster: Yes, the station is THAT bad! KOKI is perhaps the worst station in the entire heartlant. They're a laughing stock and management doesn't get it. God bless Flick. CheapChannel did him a favor.

 
At 12:34 PM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. Sounds like management was looking for a reason to fire him. If that's not the case, management needs to get its priorities straight and the news director should be fired.

 
At 1:01 PM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently KOKI has an opening for a met. I'm sure there are some people in NWA and the river valley that would give Salser all the references he needs to go to Tulsa. If Clint Boone can get on at KTUL, Salser should be a shoo-in at KOKI.

 
At 2:19 PM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Charles isn't going anywhere. He is well-established in that market, and there is NO way he will leave to go to Tulsa to be second-in-command. Under NO circumstances. He's got a good thing going there at 40/29...unless they boot him out, he's not leaving. The only way he'd leave is if a big market chief job opened up...but those are hard to come by and when you get into markets that large (Top 25) they get extremely picky about who they hire. You can be as solid as ever on the keywall, but if you don't fit what they are looking for...REJECTION LETTER.

Charles needs to stay where he is. For HIS sake.

 
At 2:28 PM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes....KOKI has an opening for a morning meteorologist. I was contacted about that job about 2 months ago, so apparently it has been known for a while. If were to work in Tulsa, I'd love to work for Jim Giles and Travis Meyer...both legends of the biz. I like Dan Threlkeld too... really nice guy.

I can say this.. if I am going to be a chief met in Oklahoma, I'd rather be in Tulsa than OKC. OKC's weather market is HARDCORE and os borderline ridiculous at times (I interned at one of the stations there....I know what those stations do to each other to win ratings and it can be downright dirty!). Tulsa seems to take more of a relaxed "let the best team win" type of approach to their coverage. It doesn't seem to be as heated or as competitive as OKC's.

Either way... that would be a good second job for a budding met.

 
At 11:13 PM, January 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I may be old fashion but, I feel like TV stations are supposed to provide a service to the public.

I think it is a sad day when a Local TV station fires an employee for providing a service to the public. I am thankful that most of the stations in the Little Rock market would interupt a program to alert the public of severe weather and I feel that if Central AR was having any major issue that put lives in danger they would not mind breaking into a scheduled program.

 
At 12:17 PM, January 12, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's SMART to fire someone for warning viewers about fire danger. GM's done care of their viewers burn to death or not... just as long as they are watching while they sear in agony.

 
At 4:53 PM, January 12, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fire the stupid idiot news director, and the GM if he doesn't like it either! Any station, TV or Radio, that fires a met, or newscaster simply because they passed along emergency information from Emergency Management, or the NWS, needs its license pulled immediately, and, to be heavily fined! Lives are far more important than ratings or sports revenue!

 
At 8:25 AM, January 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about just running a crawl, saying:

"Attention viewers! A fire is coming and you will likely die. However, please keep watching as long as possible."

 
At 9:05 PM, January 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you alls opinion on Becky Ditchfield?

 
At 9:10 PM, January 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Becky is a BABE!!!

 
At 10:13 PM, January 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question: Brad, the morning guy at KFSM, and George, the fill-in guy, are they brothers? The share the same last name. Is that why George was been the fill-in guy at KFSM? And by the way, you want an ass Dan at Channel 2 is a much bigger one than Salser.

 
At 6:34 AM, January 15, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan who?


By the way.. those on here who can't stand Saler (seems like most everyone on this board) what is it about him that you don't like? Was it a personal encounter with him that makes you feel that way? I'm just curious... because I don't think I have ever seen as much widespread hatred for a man as I am seeing here.

 
At 2:07 PM, January 15, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Salser = Annoying behavior and inaccurate forcasts.

Enough said

 
At 10:21 AM, January 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you ever met Salser in person? if not, then his on air personality is just that ON AIR. NO ONE can predict the weather 100%. I would like to see some of you get in front of the camera and do better!! If you don't like him, change the channel. Put on the weather channel. Leave the Man alone he is good at what he does....ARE YOU???

 
At 11:16 AM, January 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question: Brad, the morning guy at KFSM, and George, the fill-in guy, are they brothers? The share the same last name. Is that why George was been the fill-in guy at KFSM? And by the way, you want an ass Dan at Channel 2 is a much bigger one than Salser.

George and Brad are NOT related - they just happen to have the same last name, even though it is an uncommon name they aren't related to each other.

 
At 3:12 PM, January 16, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that Dan Threlkeld is a nice guy. I liked him at KFOR...and I like him now at KJRH. He has a great personality.

Charles Salser....definitely is good at what he does. Very smooth on the air. One of the best tv meteorologists to walk the face of the Earth? NO...by no means. But he is good at what he does.

I know that man like the back of my hand and trust me, personality-wise, he isn't what he seems. I'll refrain from further comment. I echo the last poster. If any of you ever get promoted to a higher position...always remain humble and never let it go to your head. It's a good way to lose friends.

 
At 3:46 PM, January 19, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've worked at 40/29 and have personally worked with Charles and at times he can be a bit of a jerk, but for the most part, he is a nice guy. He grin on-air does seem a bit goofy and I was the first to tell him that face to face. He did not like that comment, but said I respected him enough to say what I said to his face. Now about his weather...I believe his forecasts and the forecasts of the morning meteorologist Drew Michaels (show name is what I will give though I do know Drew's actual last name) are accurate and fair, more so than those at KFSM, a station I have also had the honor of working at. Charles can be tough to work for, granted--he did contribute to running off Damon Shaw, but he did help boost the career of Meteorologist Dan Thomas, who I last heard was working at a Hearst-Argyle station in New Orleans. I mean there are two sides to every story.

 
At 5:46 PM, January 19, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently the people of NWA like him... Charles that is. He was voted "Best Meteorologist In NWA" recently.

 
At 6:22 PM, January 19, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you would be hard-pressed to prove 40/29's forecasts are the most accurate in the market. I'm not sure what constitutes a "fair" forecast. (?)

A few reminders:

During Hurricane Rita, 40/29 urged viewers to sandbag. It didn't rain.

In December, 40/29 forecast a 6-inch snow. We're still waiting.

40/29 has also been on a pretty serious ratings slide since 2002. I wouldn't take that as a sign of viewer infatuation with their weather (or news) effort.

 
At 6:42 AM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Initially..YES they were telling people to sandbag when the models were forecasting the storm track to go into Oklahoma and slow down. All of the stations were calling for flooding potential in the River Valley initially. But as it became more apparent that Rita would be weaker and take a track farther south, 40/29 had only McCurtain Co, OKLA and Polk County with the worst weather. By that Friday morning (The hurricane made landfall Saturday morning).

I can't speak for the 6 inch snow in December, but I DO know that the threat from Rita was downplayed well in advance once it became clear what she'd do.

 
At 8:25 AM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"40/29 has also been on a pretty serious ratings slide since 2002. I wouldn't take that as a sign of viewer infatuation with their weather (or news) effort."

Prove that to us Channel 5 homer..provide the ratings numbers for us! That's right you can't..

 
At 11:07 AM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a different thread on this blog.... some ratings numbers!!

Fort Smith/Fayetteville Numbers:

6 AM
KFSM: 6/30
40/29: 4/21

5 PM
KFSM: 13/33
40/29: 8/20

6 PM
KFSM: 13/27
40/29: 9/18

10 PM
KFSM: 10/25
40/29: 8/20

Since you say that we can't provide the numbers... this implies that you beleive your station's numbers are higher. So if we take that thought and compare it to the above numbers, one can conclude only that you are declining. I'm sure we could dig up the actual numbers somewhere, however.

 
At 11:26 AM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's take a look...

Why don't we start with the 5?


2003

KFSM 10/25
40/29 10/25

2004

KFSM 13/29
40/29 10/22

2005

KFSM 13/33
40/29 9/21

Sure looks like a trend to me. Since 2003, KFSM has grown by 3 ratings points and 8 share points. 40/29, meanwhile, has fallen by 1 ratings point and 4 share points.

It gets even worse. Want to see more proof? Okay, great. Let's look at the 6!

2003

KFSM 11/23
40/29 13/25

2004

KFSM 14/26
40/29 10/17

2005

KFSM 13/27
40/29 10/19

Looks like since 2003 KFSM has grown by 2 ratings and 4 shares, while 40/29 has fallen by 3 ratings and 6 shares.

Hmmm. A trend? Sure looks like it.

 
At 11:29 AM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh and by the way, 40/29 was running the sandbagging stories on their news on Friday night. Rita hit Saturday morning. That's not exactly "downplaying" it. Go back and check your rundowns.

 
At 2:28 PM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haha! I remember that sandbag story the night before Rita.

Yeah, that was certainly a fair and accurate forecast.

40's snowfall fury forecasts are a real riot to watch too. They're the only station I've ever seen call a dusting of snow a WINTER STORM!

It sounds more like a management problem, they just don't have control over the wx staff.

 
At 10:00 PM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Small market TV.....gotta love the bickering....very amusing.

 
At 10:08 PM, January 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the Rita situation with 40/29 was a case of news and weather not communicating.

If I remember correctly...Charles Salser was on the air telling everyone there would be massive power outages and major flooding...which as a result caused them to run the sandbagging story, while one of their other meteorologists was emphasizing that the greatest threat would be well south and east of the area.

Turns out the other meteorologist was right.

Lack of communication between staff..or was this a pissing match?

 
At 11:51 AM, January 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last time I checked, all of the markets in Arkansas were small markets. Unless you count Memphis, I don't think there is a market in the state in the top 50 is there? Let alone the top 30. Not saying that's a bad thing, just that all of the cities in the state are pretty small.

I actually enjoy reading the back and forth between the folks in Walmart land. It shows they take pride in what they do and want to win. I don't get back to NWA all that often, but when I was there over Christmas it was pretty obvious that all of the stations are getting better.

KFSM really does look pretty good these days. They were just plain awful a couple of years ago, but I like that split thing they are doing and their main talent is not bad.

KHOG is a little behind the times on format, but they have that typical Hearst look. They do a nice job with graphics and Cannon has been around forever. I don't see them going away anytime soon, although if those ratings numbers are right they may want to rethink their content direction a little. From what I saw, though, they put on a pretty good product for the market size.

KNWA was really much better than I expected they would be from reading some of the comments here. They have a nice look, although I'm not a big fan of all the commercialization in their graphics. Their big weakness is depth. They just don't have the staff of the other two and it shows. They'll probably be #3 for a long time, but I hope they keep at it.

I know people at both 5 and 40/29 and I can tell you not to look down your nose at them. There are some green folks there, sure, but there are some good people in both of those newsrooms. Should be interesting to see what they build as that market keeps growing. And man, that growth in NWA is pretty amazing.

 
At 10:03 PM, January 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow...I feel we should pay for the above critique :>) How refreshing, a post that didn't include a comment on Salser!

 
At 5:44 PM, January 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have worked at 40/29 in the past and have worked with Channel 5 through storm spotting, etc., so I am familiar with both station's weather teams. In my opinion, 40/29 does have the best weather team in the market, hopefully it will be back to full scale in a few weeks, so props to Drew and Charles for working 6 days a weeks.

I want to make some comments on a few comments from earlier. As far as Hurricane Rita goes, the sandbag incident, I admit it was a little uncalled for, but Rita was so unpredictable, look at Houston, they evacuated an entire city and several incident people were killed by a storm that barely even touched it. So as with any weather situation, it is extremely unpredictable. With the snow situations, yes they definately go overboard. But, here in NWA it's not a common site now a days, so people really enjoy it. Sometimes though it does go a little far.

I have talked to Charles this week and a few things are changing about the weather/grapics at 40/29. They have received a radar upgrade from Baron and now they have a whole new look with several new features. They are also receiving new graphics computers which means faster rendering times and hopefully a better presentation.

That's my two cents worth and hopefully, some people will stop putting Charles down. He's a little goofy at times, but he's a great guy in my opinion and that's someone speaking from experience.

 
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