Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Long Time KTHV Anchor Leaving

KTHV/Channel 11/Little Rock anchor Liz Massey announced today she is leaving the station:


91 Comments:

At 10:07 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

why liz over craig. craig is awful.

 
At 10:26 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish her the best of luck. If the other stations are smart they will scoop her up. She brings a great deal of knowledge and is a great anchor with a big following.

 
At 10:26 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish her the best of luck. If the other stations are smart they will scoop her up. She brings a great deal of knowledge and is a great anchor with a big following.

 
At 10:34 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to promote yourself 10:26pm Fat Liz nobody wants to hear your fish stories .

 
At 10:37 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish her the best of luck. If the other stations are smart they will scoop her up. She brings a great deal of knowledge and is a great anchor with a big following.

 
At 10:40 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are rude! Should never throw rocks in a glass house. I'm sure you are perfect... Oh, wait you can't be because you are rude.

 
At 10:44 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are rude! Should never throw rocks in a glass house. I'm sure you are perfect... Oh, wait you can't be because you are rude.

 
At 10:55 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop putting self promotion posts on here Liz you we're supposed to be fired during the summer last year but Dawn basically did your job and had to negotiate with management for you to stay on and you came back on early September of last year.

 
At 11:01 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And let's not forget some of the reasons why you were fired.

 
At 11:05 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are rude! Should never throw rocks in a glass house. I'm sure you are perfect... Oh, wait you can't be because you are rude.

 
At 11:46 PM, September 25, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:01 who are you talking about for reasons for getting fired ? Did you mean Liz

 
At 1:01 AM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CHISM lady that use to work at CH 11 comment made me also feel that she was let go instead of it being on her own. Man they have really cleaned house. I am surprised Mark Edwards still has a job. NOTHING on their Sports. And usually or for a while Craig did the sports on Monday or whatever day Mark was off

 
At 3:27 AM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liz, you are a kind generous person with a beautiful family. The Little Rock community appreciates all you have done for the city and surrounding community. I am hoping a another station will pick you up. Take care and perhaps we will see you again on the nightly news on another station. God bless and many good wishes.

 
At 8:25 AM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know some of you TV Types don't like Liz, but as a TV Viewer we love her. I am hit and miss on the diaper drive, but many people relate more to giving an item as opposed to money.

The people calling her fat probably way twice as much as she does. Liz seemed to do a good job delivering the news. People could relate to her. Sure she may not have been as thin as some TV types but she was real. Some of you on her complain about the fake ones, then complain when there is something more real.

Liz thank you for your time and hope you find something better here in Central AR, esp on the air.

 
At 8:42 AM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She'll never be on air in this market again. She was fired for a reason. Those of you claiming what a good person she was should have come around the newsroom to see her in action.

 
At 11:13 AM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, then, spill! You've said she was fired for a reason, but you don't say why! I've never heard anyone on here bash her for anything other than her weight and the constant fishing stories and diaper drive. So what is she like in the newsroom ?

 
At 11:35 AM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is a self absorbed horrible person to work with.

 
At 12:51 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dang -- talk about someone with an ax to grind! The post at 11:35 is relfective of the kind of crap that comes out of the GM's mouth when someone decides to leave. He tries to justify why it's a good thing.

I worked with Liz for about 8 years. She was one of the hardest-working reporters and, later, anchors at the station. Though the station dumped on her, she was always pleasant to me.

Liz's departure is the result of a decision SHE made. She, like of lot of us, got tired of working for a bunch of idiots whether it be Audas, Maulden, Caplan or Parker.

The good ol' Today's THV days are over in every way. The station will continue its downward spiral until Gannett opens its eyes and does smoething -- if they even care.

 
At 1:36 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was not her decision. She was told she had a year to leave.

 
At 3:09 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:36 -- not true. They submitted an inferior offer to her. on second thought, that may have been their way -- though cowardly -- of telling her to leave.

 
At 3:53 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has this been confirmed. I follow Liz on twitter and didn't get this twit.

 
At 4:14 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the person above, It is a Facebook post.

My question is, is she leaving on her own or was it THV's decision?

If it was THV, why? Just because she is overweight? There are heavy anchors in this world.

I don't care what anyone says, Liz is a nice person and a hard worker.

Because she is leaving, does that mean they have someone lined up? I know Ashley is anchoring tonight. That is an odd pair, Ashley and Craig.

I wish Stefanie would return and take Liz's position.

 
At 4:46 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this point they all need to go. The banner needs to go as well. That would be step 1 of turning the ship around.

 
At 5:00 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liz, didn't get fired. She handed in her resignation after her contract negotiations weren't working out. She is an anchor who has been at the station for several years through the good and BAD times. You would think they would have appreciated her more considering some of the other non-talent they have working there. It's like they pulled up at a high school and asked a few children if they wanted to be on T.V. Just like Alyson Courtney, Aud-ass allowed her departure because he didn't want to appreciate the talent she was for the station. Now look at what she's doing at KATV. Proof that THV should have fought harder to keep her. So like many of you, you reach an impasse and decide to leave with your dignity, so has Liz and many others. So many good people have done this with THV lately and if you start saying they aren't good....Well, I don't see your rear end up there on the air or behind the scenes. This mass exiting is a direct result of current management and the LACK of IT. It would be hard for me to believe Gannett is trying to implode their TV station. I'm sure it isn't a directive from above...if it is...they need a tax write off and eventually that catches up to you too. This is a result of ruining good people with Over Promising and Under Delivering. This has happened not only with the News Dept but with the Sales Dept as well. So, for you haters out there...Liz is sadly another casualty of Total Mismanagement of the station. Caplan is the puppet master and a coward. He sends others out to do his dirty deeds but can't be found when it goes down. No respect for this individual at all. Moved up the ladder way too fast and isn't ready to manage at this level. Their GSM and LSM aren't any better and for the benefit of doubt, they are probably being directed by the Caplan. Sad to have so much talent and will to do a good job to just have it all pissed away by a poor leader. I know this sounds VERY FAMILIAR to many of you in your dead end jobs...mad about how it could have been...but isn't because you can't do ANYTHING because of a controlling manager in a position they aren't qualified for to run. So unlike many of you, some people at THV see the writing on the wall and are making a difference in their life because they couldn't rely on their employer to make a difference. I'm glad to see people grow a set and do something about it. WHO CARES if THV makes it....CBS is the reason they exist anyway. On their own, THV, couldn't make it and won't if they continue in their current direction. I wish Liz and all the others who have left the station a Happy and Successful Life.

 
At 5:22 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sad that you are leaving Liz. You and Ed are my most favorite people on any tv channel. I have watched you from the beginning and you have always showed so much love for people. You did a interview with my dad and uncle several years ago and I have enjoyed watching it so many times. Where ever you go I pray for success in any thing you put your hand to do. Love you and your family. Seems like Im losing part of mine.

 
At 8:58 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The next thing THV needs to do is stop with the 6:30 pm news. They show the same stuff at 5:00, 6:00 and 6:30pm. And get rid of that dang black banner at the bottom of the screen. That thing is terrible to look at.

 
At 11:01 PM, September 26, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are in the TV news business, aren't you? Because people keep complaining about the black banner like it's the station's idea. The damn thing is on all of Gannett's stations. It's a corporate idea. It started rolling out way back in January.

 
At 9:10 AM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha...oh please get rid of the banner...I've eaten my fingernails to the bone because my OCD is giving me fits not being able to see the top of desks and male reporter's belt-buckles.

 
At 9:31 AM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the banner. If I'm looking for a certain news item, I know I can check 4 or 7 while some fluff diaper drive segment is shown on 11.

And the 6:30 news is great for people who don't get home until then, as in people who have to do the 9 to 5, then actually drive home. If you want to watch Adam 12 or Emergency reruns, check out MeTV.

 
At 12:26 PM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but I'm not buying that Liz left because she didn't like their contract offer. That doesn't jive with the facts. If she were pulling in stellar ratings, perhaps, but she's not. She is in her late 30's, overweight, and has a very distinctive Arkansas accent. Her family is in Arkansas. She's been at THV for 14 years. If she had wanted to move on, she'd have tried to do it years ago. She'd also have made a serious effort to lose weight if she thought her job was on the line because of it. She was in a precarious situation there; she was in no position to play hardball with Gannett over money. She had nothing to bargain with. She would not willingly have left THV over the lack of a raise--where is she gonna go? I doubt KATV would hire her--she doesn't fit their mold. No, I don't think this was Liz's decision at all. I think they let her go.

 
At 6:30 PM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fit in at KATV? I don't think she would even fit in an airline seat.

 
At 7:28 PM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A local news reporter was arrested Friday afternoon by Shreveport police vice agents at a local park: http://bit.ly/16167Zh

 
At 8:15 PM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reporter arrested:

http://www.ksla.com/story/23553150/local-reporter-arrested-at-hamel-park-charged-with-obscenity

 
At 9:39 PM, September 27, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot uf ugly, mean spirited people on this thread. Truly sad.

 
At 9:52 AM, September 28, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a feeling there are just a few mean spirited people not a lot. Best of luck to Liz. You are a fine person.

 
At 6:55 AM, September 30, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's one person.

 
At 8:12 AM, September 30, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not one person. This business is full of mean spirited back stabbers who smile ton your face.

 
At 8:16 AM, September 30, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes. People who go out with you on a Friday night and talk crap about you on Saturday morning. Backstabbers.

 
At 12:04 PM, September 30, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last year someone on the blog mentioned THV would only renew Liz for a year and come back to the table and see if she lost weight. Is that true?

If it is, I assume she thought they were bluffing.

Maybe she is fine with her size. Good Luck Liz.

 
At 10:24 PM, September 30, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't Lizz Fired last year during the summer because she wasnt on from June to the end august of 2012 but somehow Dawn did Lizz's job and argued with management and got Lizz her job back by the beginning of September the same time Matt Turner came on THV.

So I am guessing she had no say and was let go.

 
At 10:41 AM, October 01, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bottom line, I don't see anyone beating down the doors to work for THV and their current silly management. The ones they do get to come there are kids....they are desperate and only using this as a stepping stone. They can't get sales reps to come on board because they have suck ass management there, too. Sad situation for THV. The current management has successfully destroyed anything that resembles a viable television station. Oh, they must be so proud at Gannett. For all the haters out there....Cast no stone in a glass house. I would be willing to bet that most of you making nasty comments aren't any better...mentally or physically. One day this will come to pass when the heads roll on the current management. It's coming...Gannett is not one for a bunch of crap...no matter what the Golden Child Caplan may be saying. He can only blow smoke up their rears for so long....then goodbye. Then it will trickle down to the other so called managers in the building. Couldn't happen soon enough so this market can get back to some normalcy.

 
At 3:57 PM, October 02, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good luck Liz. I will miss watching your Fishing with Liz. Only watched the news when you were on. I hope for the best for you.

 
At 4:13 PM, October 02, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe THV can get a real weather person for weekend since it is obvious that Sarah only reads the prompter and has no weather forecasting skills or severe weather knowledge to warn anybody since they have to wake up Ed Buckner or keep Tom around when ever Sarah does weather during severe weather or winter weather potential outbreak. The only thing she does is retweet the Arkansas weather hash tag for thv .

 
At 10:00 PM, October 02, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She has no clue. Pretty girl, but no clue.

 
At 4:11 AM, October 03, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give the girl time. No one springs fully formed from Zeus' head! Arkansas is a severe weather state, and perhaps she is not ready for a state where weather makes up a lot of the serious news, but that is management's fault. Someone with more severe weather experience should have been hired. She just needs to grow, and with time , she will.stsFoom 124

 
At 7:30 AM, October 03, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. She is going to be great with time. The problem is that on air talent used to learn the ropes in smaller markets. Little Rock television has gotten so cheap!

 
At 11:01 PM, October 03, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just can't believe how mean people can be about someone's weight.

 
At 1:05 AM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on Arkansans, we aren't mean & vicious people. I'm ashamed of some of the comments on this blog!

 
At 6:48 AM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

TV is a superficial, petty business by and large so there should be no surprise that most of the comments here are superficial and petty.

The wrap on Liz's THV career: stellar reporter who was promoted because of that to a job she wasn't as good at. She could have made huge money if she'd gone to the west coast ten years ago. They could have fixed the accent.

A reality check is that THV had a shot at being the market leader in the days of Andy Pearson, Dawn and Anne, Liz, Ed and Craig. Susan Newkirk had her flaws but she knew what to put on. Audass excelled at what he does best, which is poor ratings and poor leadership and that tradition continues.

About the only things THV has going for it are the Knutson anchor and a great graphics package.

 
At 9:00 AM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did Lizz lie last night about wanting to take a different career path when she was actually let go for the second in a year after being fired during the summer of 2012 but Dawn got her back on in September of 2012 .She is lucky to get a good bye on air this time around because she didn't have one last year and no one cared until Dawn begged for THV to bring her back after being off air from June to early September .

 
At 9:59 AM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So was she fired or quit. I heard it straight from another THV employee that she could have stayed but maybe he didn't know the complete story. BTW, what is the salary range for a prime time anchor in this market, anyone know.

 
At 11:33 AM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry to see Liz go! The comments about her weight are dumb! She represents most American women. She is beautiful & comes over the air as very endearing & intelligent! My household will miss her!

 
At 12:23 PM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all of you that keeps saying that Liz is fat, HA. you must have never seen her in person. She is NOT fat. Television camera's make you look bigger. Everyone has their own opinion and mine is get rid of Dawn. She thinks she's all that and tries to act in my opinion , just watch her body movements and her mouth. Craig is just as bad can't even read the news.I have sometimes thought he was taking some meds or was doing drugs.

 
At 3:11 PM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw Liz on the morning show today ... oops my bad, it was Alyse.

 
At 6:07 PM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love me some Alyse. She's funny as hell on the show and beautiful.

 
At 7:33 PM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't believe KTHV didn't cover 3 Miles of Men or Alyse and Tom at the award ceremony. Two big events that involved the station and they didn't show up for either.

 
At 7:44 PM, October 04, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone must have thought the Vilonia bugs were more important.

 
At 7:35 AM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work in a place where Liz, Dawn and Sara frequently come into. Dawn is stuck up and looks down on everyone. Liz and Sara two of the nicest people i have met. Tom Brannon very cool too.
I hate to see Liz go for whatever the reason. I stopped watching 11 when Andy left.
If Dawn Scott looked like Erin Hawley, maybe she could pull off being a rude person. Erin you rock!

 
At 2:33 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad pr for thv not to show up for the two events.

 
At 7:07 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin Hawley may look nice, but she is known to be impossible to work with and lazy. Other reporters at her station say she shows up to the morning meeting at least 15 minutes late every day, if she even makes it at all.

Why doesn't she get reprimanded for that?

 
At 7:16 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I saw Erin on 7 at first I thought she was going to be a big addition for them, but I have heard only bad things from everyone I know over there.

 
At 7:42 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have the weekend ratings fallen since she's been on?

I kind of doubt it with Todd's popularity carrying them, but just wondered.

 
At 7:43 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:07 I have to agree with you. The three of them are who I watch in the morning. But if that damn cat pops up on the screen again I think I'll scream! Serious news is not the time to let him parade around. Management should know better.

 
At 8:04 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word is Sinclair will not put up with the amount of female anchors that KATV enjoys anyway. The Beth/Christina combo will be seen as a luxury they will immediately address. You don't have to think long about where that leaves the know it all weekend basket case.

 
At 8:26 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes I just want to watch the weather , and Tom is acting like an idiot. He is funny,but I want to see the weather!!!!

 
At 11:00 PM, October 05, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin Hawley applied for full time anchor jobs and could only land weekend anchor.

She worked in Florida where KATV’s Heather Crawford moved. Reporters there did not like Erin and Heather pushed her on KATV management to get rid of her. Now KATV is stuck with her.

She fights with photographers and talks behind her reporter co-workers backs.

 
At 6:14 PM, October 06, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a plan to replace Liz? If so who?

 
At 8:46 PM, October 06, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

They can't get rid of Overbearin Erin, that place would fall apart without her.

 
At 9:54 PM, October 06, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin thinks highly of herself. Just check out her Facebook page for evidence.

 
At 4:34 AM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone caught that the voice of Siri is also the voice of the THV announcer-chick? Susan Bennett, I think.

 
At 5:01 AM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was wondering if anyone else had noticed erin's facebook and .com pages!

She must think there is a "what would erin do?" fanclub or something.

 
At 8:41 AM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like Erin is full of herself. To bad to ruin a pretty face with a crappy demeanor. If they business is as messed up as you folks say it it, cheers to Liz for bailing for whatever reason.

 
At 5:27 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liz was a bright spot, just as alyson was. the best to you, Liz

 
At 5:42 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who will be placing sweet Liz? Or is she not being replaced?

 
At 7:53 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Erin Hawley gets to take off days and walk in late because management loves her. She is a brown-noser.

When an anchor at any station is off, do you ever see a reporter sit next to the other anchor? No. But Erin pushes and gets to sit next to Scott, Beth and Christina when one of them is off. She knows what she is doing but she is not liked.

She has been to Human Resources several times when co-workers have complained about serious issues with her.

 
At 8:39 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not in tv so this may sound like a dumb question to those that are. Why was it when Heather Crawford left AR was it made to sound like a big promotion? But Erin Hawley came to AR wouldn't that be a step down? Did Heather just resent being pulled from the week day shift and stuck on the weekend. I always thought that looked like they didn't want her anymore.

 
At 8:41 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surprised but not surprised.

There is one of every type of person at every station.

Everyone has a diva, someone OCD, someone who piggy backs, people who are late to meetings, people who miss time slot and so forth.

It is just funny to get on here and see who is being talked about by their own coworkers.

 
At 8:44 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heather left KATV to be closer to the Mayo clinic where her husband is a patient. Heather is the main anchor at that station, which is a promotion over where she was. Erin was just a reporter at that station. Her coming to KATV was a bit of a promotion because she gets to anchor.

 
At 11:09 PM, October 07, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but for those of you that are claiming that Liz was let go because of her weight, let me ask you a question... If that is the case, then why isn't there a massive lawsuit against KTHV / Gannett for discrimination? What you are claiming is illegal, and if it is true, Liz needs to seek legal counsel and take KTHV from Gannett and do what she wants with the station. I, for one, liked Liz, and will miss her reporting. Having said that, I cannot speak for her personality as I have never seen her in person, nor have I ever talked to her over the phone. My only contact with Liz was in allowing her to come into my living room every night across the TV waves.

 
At 12:12 AM, October 08, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which is why you just don't get it, 11:09. You're a viewer. If you worked in the business, you'd understand that appearance is part of the job for a news anchor--indeed, part of their contracts, in many cases. A news anchor can't dye her hair blue and cut it into a Mohawk and expect to be allowed in the anchor chair that evening. A news anchor also cannot do something in his or her personal downtime that would bring the station into public scorn, or cause the public morals to be offended. In addition, Arkansas is a right-to-work state where an employer can pretty much fire you for just about any reason.

 
At 9:13 AM, October 08, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And she wasn't fired for her weight only. She was not a good employee or coworker. Her weight was just one of many reasons she wasn't asked back.

 
At 3:35 PM, October 08, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who picks news content on thv? They must live under a rock.

 
At 6:28 PM, October 08, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would rather watch Liz attempt to read sports than have to hear Mark Edwards. In addition to his stammering, it sounds like he's talking with a mouth full of marbles.

 
At 9:30 PM, October 09, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark Edwards bees da best mans fo da job

 
At 5:46 PM, October 21, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

they both goobers dump both

 
At 6:11 PM, October 28, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is Liz doing since her resignation? And is Stefanie Bryant still working in TV somewhere?

 
At 12:00 AM, October 29, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The weather guesser girl says our weather will be coming in on a train track. Nothing like training on the air, live. HELP!

 
At 8:42 PM, November 06, 2013, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Joey, the cat. Elyse, is beautiful and Tom is wonderful.

 
At 11:42 AM, April 02, 2014, OpenID me me me said...

I loved watching her on the news.she is why we watched 11. Love her

 
At 11:57 AM, April 02, 2014, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liz is better than that Elyse . And as for liz she is not big at all . Put her and Elyse side by side you would see who the is fat. Not liz.

 
At 12:02 PM, April 02, 2014, Anonymous judy said...

I love watching liz. She's not over weight and so what if she has an accent .we all have one. Thank you. .look how big some of the other girls. They are bigger than her.

 

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