Sunday, November 27, 2005

Sunday Tornado Outbreak

Severe weather is keeping Arkansas TV 'mets' busy this evening. When I got home from work at 6:30pm, KARK and KATV were providing wall to wall coverage. 4 and 7 had all of its main mets on duty. Barry and Todd on 7 and Brett and Dan on 4. KTHV opted to not provide wall to wall coverage. Ed Buckner was on from time to time giving updates. KARK was first with reports of damage from the storms.

UPDATE: 7:25pm KARK has put several 'citizen journalists', in the line of severe weather, on the air to describe conditions around various parts of the state. KARK and KATV continue to provide wall to wall coverage while Channel 11 is rolling regularly scheduled programming.

UPDATE: 7:50pm As tornado warnings continue to be issued for counties across the state, on KATV Barry Brandt apologized to viewers for covering up regularly scheduled programming. Meanwhile over at KTHV they continue airing regulary scheduled programming, with no update in a while. All 11 provides is the crawl and symbol at the lower left of the screen. Channel 4 rolls on with coverage. And flipping back and forth I find KARK offering the best coverage. KARK has had several citizen reports on the air of damage AND news crews on the scene of where a twister touched down. 4 seems to be the only one hitting the story from the weather and news angle.

133 Comments:

At 7:23 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw Heverling and I think Yarbrough in the background from KARK's newsroom. Nice to see 4's managers step up... for once.

 
At 8:14 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's great to see that KATV has their priorities straight. They had continuous coverage until the storm passed Pulaski Co., then bailed on those of us in North and East Arkansas to ensure that nobody had to miss Desperate Housewives.

 
At 8:34 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good gosh. Can anyone say a little overboard? Any CONFIRMED touchdowns? Any CONFIRMED injuries?

 
At 8:34 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because Desperate Housewives is a HUGE moneymaker for KATV!!! They need to pay Ned and Barry!

 
At 8:44 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

KARK just works harder and they proved it tonight.Cause there is "No show Ned," and "I hate to show Ed."Now lets go to the garden cat for some info-tainment.

 
At 8:47 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many times does that hard working Tracey half to show us that the flag is blowing behind her. I have never seen a flag blow before.

 
At 8:48 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess if I had NBC programming, I'd cover it with anything I could.

 
At 9:26 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work at KATV and the person who used to spearhead our coverage was Jeff Whatley. He's now at channel 4 and i'm guessing he had a lot to do with coverage there. I know when we've been whooped.

 
At 9:34 PM, November 27, 2005, Blogger David said...

I mostly watched 7, but it seemed that everytime new guy started to talk, Barry cut him off. It was very iritating, like they were competing for time.

Fox 16, which normally rocks, really dropped the ball. They didn't start interrupting until the ball game went off, and then provided good coverage.

 
At 9:47 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a tie for FIRST PLACE: KARK/KATV
Honorable Mention: KLRT
LOSER: KTHV

To summarize: I'll give 4 props with the news/weather combo. They were suprisingly ahead of the story. Channel 7 did a great job with Barry and Todd.

 
At 11:51 PM, November 27, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently my man Dan Skoff once again proved why he is one of the best mets in Arkansas. Job Well done Dan.

 
At 12:11 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without a doubt...KARK had the best coverage. Nobody else was even in the ballpark.

 
At 7:31 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just OVERKILL. KATV & KARK did do a decent job at reporting the weather news last night. However, there is a thing as OVERKILL. What's worse is that poor Dan didn't know his Arkansas Geography. Brett should've stayed home. I feel as if he were there for the "glory" factor. KATV did a fine job being on from 2pm til Desperate Housewives. I learned a lot about all those green and red colors that Todd was talking about. It's funny though when Tornado Warnings are still flying about, and you return to network programing and ignore the other half of the state. Way to go Chief Met Nicholson. The dollar is mightier than the Wind I guess. Ed was better because he was selective with his cut-ins. His approach wasn't the "WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE!" mode that KARK & KATV were in. I agree with the person who questioned the CONFIRMED touchdowns. We'll find out more today I'm sure. I'm not saying that KATV and KARK did a poor job, I think it was a little to much and all you do is scare the hell out of viewers.

 
At 8:14 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's a "met?" Nobody in the TV news business uses this term. Please use the entire word.

 
At 8:14 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you think the media over kills almost everything?

I am glad to know that the mets are there and doing their job and by gosh it came in handy to see where each cell was heading. But I agree with the whole watch and warning system...it scares the hell out of people but if it saves lives that is the purpose of it.

 
At 8:29 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Channel 11 acted like there wasn't even a storm... pathetic !

 
At 8:31 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Overkill? You think the stations should wait until AFTER lots of people are killed... and then break in to say there are threatening storms?

 
At 8:33 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote: What's a "met?" Nobody in the TV news business uses this term. Please use the entire word.


If you'd use some common sense and read what the topic is about you could figure it out. And yes...people in the TV business use this term. It's even in the original post. Educate yourself my friend...never hurts to learn something new.

 
At 8:36 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on you guys work in the media otherwise you wouldn't be unloading the dirty laundry on a day to day basis. MET is short for Meteorologist.

I'm interested in knowing (unbiased) from others out there, who they thought did the better job. It's obvious that 4 thinks they did the best, and 7 as well. None of this "as a viewer" crap because you ARE biased if you work in the media.

 
At 8:37 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will say this.. .Dan wasn't there for the "glory". First of all, It was his regular shift. Second of all, Dan and Mike Francis know more about severe weather meteorology than anyone else at that station. If I were faced with a situation like that, I'd wan't my best in there and ON THE AIR.

Nothing against Brett at all, he's good, but clearly Dan knows way more about severe weather between the two.

 
At 8:41 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'citizen journalists' WTF?

 
At 8:41 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of people weren't killed. So far - one fatality from flying debris caused by straight line winds or a tornado... Not yet confiremed but will be later today. Ever heard of cry wolf???

 
At 8:43 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan may know weather... just not Arkansas geography. Yes Mike and Dan are very good METS. No arguments. Just learn where the cities are.

 
At 9:57 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It did seem like overkill. But I'm sure we would complain if some of the stations had less coverage.
KARK was the hands-down winner.

They have the best weather team, both in terms of personality and professionalism. KARK, also has Tracy Douglass, who seems to do everything well, and should have a more prominent role.

 
At 10:18 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The weather coverage at KTHV put them on the map several years ago when other stations were off the air. Last night, they were BIG TIME losers. No live coverage, no wall to wall - Severe weather in any form any where in your coverage area - is a big story - if your competition is on the air with it - by damn, you better be on the air with it - Overboard? No way
KARK and KATV kept their viewers informed and safe - KTHV and KLRT did not.

 
At 10:54 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm typically the first to criticize 4, but last night they led the pack with wall to wall coverage. They also led at 10 with Brett and Dan both at the newsdesk and Tracy doing a county by county assessment at the newsroom's dry erase board. Job Well Done 4 - I hope this is a preview of things to come!

 
At 11:24 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Barry and the new guy were doing a really good job last night, right up to the point where they bailed and left eastern arkansas to fend for itself. I know the storms were nearing the point where KAIT is the ABC affiliate, but there was about 45 minutes of pretty nasty weather in territory that relies on KATV, and they weren't there to provide the information that was needed.

While we're on the subject KAIT did a pretty good job, it's just that they lack some of the cool weather toys that the LR stations have.

 
At 11:34 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have always liked KAIT's weather coverage...ever since Terry Wood was there back in the mid and late 80s.

 
At 11:38 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Job Well Done 4 - I hope this is a preview of things to come!"

Get real. It is going to take a lot more than going wall to wall on one night to prove anything. Wait till the november numbers come out.

 
At 11:42 AM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah yes, wait til the numbers. But remember, KARK doesn't subscribe to Neilsen anymore. So therefore, their sales people can't use the numbers.

 
At 12:00 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right it will take more then just one night of great coverage. But it does prove that KARK is not going to roll over and play dead.


on a side note...I was reading Anne Jansen's bio on KTHV.com. I had no idea she was honored with a silver beaver award. (insert your own joke here)

 
At 12:19 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was with the KARK dry erase board?
Did their graphics guy not show up for work?
And one of the entries at 10:00, if I read it right, was "Homes splat."
Pretty technical stuff.
And caring too.

 
At 12:23 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe how insensitive some people are! So far - 3 confirmed tornados (not sure about touchdowns); 1 confirmed death. But you don't have to touchdowns or even tornados for dangerous weather. Perhaps there aren't more injuries or deaths because of what you people call "overkill". Numerous people in the field have said that if it hadn't been for the constant coverage, they would not have taken cover when they did. I didn't realize you had to have a pile of bodies to justify pre-empting programming.

 
At 12:35 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Lots of people weren't killed. So far - one fatality from flying debris caused by straight line winds or a tornado... Not yet confiremed but will be later today. Ever heard of cry wolf???"

People did not DIE because the stations were warning the viewers! KARK and KATV saved lives last night, and that is a fact.

 
At 12:54 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

KTHV did a fine job letting everyone know where the "probable tornados" were. Their news team dropped the ball on reporting storm damage.

 
At 12:55 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silver or shaved ?

 
At 12:56 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the viewer who thinks it was overkill... how about letting someone kick you in the fmaily jewels.. and THEN tell you there's potential danger ?

 
At 2:02 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Living in a rural county in North Central AR I am grateful for the coverage, wall to wall and otherwise.

At one point last night we had reported tornado activity completely surrounding our home, east west north and south. In this rural area, there are many people in our community, poor and disadvantaged who live in structures that are not safe in tornado strength and straightline winds. Some structures are barely livable, but it's all these people have. They have no basements, no "shelters" etc to go to when these things churn up. They must flee to a community type structure that is safe and open for refuge.

It takes time and knowledge as to the status of these storms in order to get their families to safety.

Think before you rant...not everyone living in Arkansas has the means to escape to their basement and sip chardonney while the winds are howling and destroying everything in sight.

Keep up the good work KARK and KATV. You prove you know your audiences better than perhaps even some media "professionals" and I'm sure you saved many lives last night. My family is profoundly thankful for your coverage.

 
At 2:03 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm one that was able to take cover and knew when the storm was coming, I live in the Hills near Batesville and we don't get local channels on our satelite so we get KARK and they let us know we were about to get hit, I was greatful they covered all the way through the state!
Thanks KARK keep up the great work!

 
At 2:03 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares if their graphics guy showed up or not. They conveyed more news to their viewers from that dry erase board than did the other guys combined.

 
At 2:23 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although it's been almost 20 years since I was a weekend wx anchor and weekday news producer, one thing hasn't changed. Broadcasters have an ultimate duty to use the airwaves to inform the public, especially in widespread (and terrifying) weather conditions. Just how much is a judgement call, but last night deserved wall-to-wall coverage.

My judgement - KARK wins.

Was I missing something or did Ch. 7 completely can the final installment of the Houston Nutt show in favor of coverage? If so, good move. Wish you had done the same during "Desperate Housewives."

Ed, where were you?

 
At 2:36 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

KARK gambled well. They could go wall to wall since they didn't have anything better to show. Then, I'm sure they reasoned that they could spend all day today crowing about how good they did. I was listening to their "news" part of it, and they had a lot of UNconfirmed reports onthe air which the weatherman then took as fact. The gamble was good in that many of their uncofirmed reports turned out to be true.

I think KARK sent out the all-call to the troops and everyone responded. They are third, after all, and have nothing to lose and minimum wage at time and a half isn't going to break the bank.

My guess is that KTHV didn't send out the all-call as Ed usually likes to take it all.

 
At 2:55 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found KATV's converage to be annoying. they were on the air contantly from 4:30 (the time I turned on the tv) until around 8. I know these storms were moving fast, but I don't think they needed to be on the air for 3 1/2 hours straight to get the news delivered. They could have used crawls and graphics just as effectively and broken in say every 10 to 15 minutes.

It reminded me of that weekend met who used to be at KARK years ago who kept breaking in during a game in the NBA finals one Saturday night with severe weather that was down near Arkadelphia. Every time he broke in with a new warning, he would say "since I have you here, lets go over the storms that we're tracking one more time" and spent up to 5 minutes showing all of the storms on radar....

 
At 3:04 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every station has a different style and a different way to present the news and weather. We should all pick the one that meets our needs and quit complaining about the others.

 
At 3:20 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work at a tv station in Fort Smith as well as a radio station in Ozark as well and was having to assist with severe weather coverage when the storms passed through our area.

I think it is idiotic how people call and gripe because we cut off "Desperate Housewives" or whatever show. By far the safety of our viewers and our listeners are the top most priority. I would rather listen to someone complain for theirty minutes about missing a program than reading an obituary the next day in the paper.

That's my two cents worth, you may agree or disagree but I believe safety always takes precedence over entertainment.

 
At 3:47 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree completely! By the way, great job channel 4.

 
At 3:47 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't the main purpose of FCC regulated stations to keep the public informed with news and information? That's what KARK and KATV was doing, working in the public interest. KTHV was working in the interest of its pocket book.

 
At 3:56 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can you say that? KTHV cut in every 5 minutes - telling us exactly what we needed to know. If you ask me, KARK was working to cover up a bad line up.

 
At 4:39 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous d said...

I watched KARK most of the evening because I wanted to know what was going on. The storms were moving so fast that they pretty much had to be on the whole time in order to keep up.

 
At 4:40 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again...you can't please everyone. I am favor of the wall-to-wall coverage given the severity of the situation. Don't forget how huge Little Rock's DMA is. People from Arkadelphia to Mountain View are counting on their coverage, so if it means covering up your favorite program to inform the people that ARE in danger...SO BE IT. I am so sick and tired of these clowns that bitch and moan about not seeing their favorite show. Trust me, if a killer tornado was bearing down on your house, you'd want to know what the heck was going on. Ignorance is bliss....

 
At 8:31 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My vote for best coverage goes to KARK. With the use of its reporters, plus the weather info given it won hands down. KATV's coverage was good, but it was all Todd and Barry without field reporters. Every time I tuned into KTHV the regular programming was on (with a crawler).

Now, while I hate the program interruptions, the stations are performing a PUBLIC SERVICE by providing this information to its viewers. That is what these stations are licensed for and while I disagree with Nexstar's and Albritton's corporate policies at times, the bottom line is that lives were saved because KARK and KATV were there do what it took to warn people.

And KTHV, remember what put you on the map (the Mar 1, 1997 tornado coverage ) while you wallow in your new found glory of CBS Primtime and your nice full power DTV stick/CBS HDTV programming....otherwise, you might still be airing old movies on sunday morning instead of (CBS)Sunday Morning like in the old days.

 
At 10:58 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll agree with most of the posters here, 4 & 7 did the best jobs. 11 came in a not too distant second, Ed and Becky were both there and did fine. 16 did their job too. This was nowhere near overkill. If you want to see real overkill, watch sports coverage during Razorback Football and Basketball seasons! This episode illustrates clearly how Severe Weather in Arkansas should be covered, live as it happens! Screw the network programming, when lives are at stake! Watch the reruns in a month or two, or buy the season on DVD.

 
At 11:13 PM, November 28, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, don't forget the folks at the National Weather Service offices in North Little Rock, Tulsa, Memphis, Shreveport, Jackson, and the Storm Prediction Center. They all did an excellent job keeping our TV and Radio people ahead of the situation, and all of us safe! They deserve major credit too!

 
At 12:32 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anybody hear it at 10 on 4 when the producer's voice could be heard on the air? Think it was during Cecila Pond-Mayo's story. And where was Jancy during all of this?

 
At 1:09 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know the storms were nearing the point where KAIT is the ABC affiliate, but there was about 45 minutes of pretty nasty weather in territory that relies on KATV, and they weren't there to provide the information that was needed.

It really sucks that ALL of Arkansas TV considers Jonesboro / NE Arkansas to be no-man's land. They don't do any stories up there and ignore their weather -- even though cable customers up there can watch 'em. I've always hated that.

 
At 3:02 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the new weekend weather guy at 16 blows...Nice hire.

 
At 6:18 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I find funny is, I saw a lot on 11 -- and it made sense -- unlike what 16 had. Plus -- 16 made it impossible to keep up with the game. It seems the blogger didn't bother to tune in when the storms kicked up in the first place. I would rather hear Ed simply explain the situation once concisely than listen to 16's mumbo jumbo eight or nine times.

 
At 6:24 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For everybody concerned about the Sunday tv lineup..the National Weather Service in Little Rock identified 8 tornado tracks on Sunday. 2 tornadoes had estimated winds from 160-170 miles mph NW of Little Rock in Perry and Conway counties. This was a dangerous situation that needed proper coverage.

 
At 6:54 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. 4 & 7 Did the same thing. They repeated themselves over & over & over with no real new info... just showcasing themselves and their toys. Ed got on, was consice with the info that we needed and returned to network programming. 4 & 7 can pat themselves on the back if they wish... for truly giving meaning to the word "repitition."

 
At 7:22 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote: I agree. 4 & 7 Did the same thing. They repeated themselves over & over & over with no real new info... just showcasing themselves and their toys. Ed got on, was consice with the info that we needed and returned to network programming. 4 & 7 can pat themselves on the back if they wish... for truly giving meaning to the word "repitition."


Apparently you don't understand severe weather coverage. You think people all turn on their sets at the same time? It has to be repetitive to inform those viewers that haven't been watching the entire time. Again... the ignorance prevails

 
At 7:55 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

for those of you that aren't meteorologists posting on this board, please realize that tornadic storms can quickly change and intensify. As I posted earlier, there were two dangerous tornadoes with winds over 160 mph, and pretty close to the I-40 corridor. I think it's better to be onthe ar as the storms change compared to waiting and breaking in again. This way the information is constant and viewers are informed immediately. If your tools help you better explain the situation, tell me how that's considered showing off?

 
At 8:29 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish mark weinburg was here to ride the storms to Win's house and lap dance that baby all the way to discovery. Then turn on the TV to see a bunch of fake weather people acting like they know why or where the storm will turn. All you need to know is basic geography and some weather trainning and you can be Bret Cummings or the turd weekend guy at 16. KNOW ARKANSAS BEFORE YOU TELL ME ABOUT STORMS!!!! GET SOME ARKANSAS TALENT TO DO WEATHER

 
At 8:43 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah... that's the way to do it. Put a non-meteorologist on the air to cover a major severe weather event to misinform people and get them killed. Geography is important YES... VERY IMPORTANT. But "a little weather training" ain't gonna cut it. You have to know what you are talking about, otherwise all of that Rand McNallyness gets thrown out the window.

I agree: Know Geography Of Your Area

I disagree: All you need is some weather trainning and you can be Bret Cummings or the turd weekend guy at 16.

 
At 11:45 AM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Turd weekend guy at 16 ... That's funny. But, why exactly is he a turd?

 
At 12:04 PM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that sexy TD Rob Hatfield was by far on his "A" game Sunday FOR KTHV!!! Sexxxxy boy!!!

 
At 2:23 PM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michelle Rupp is my cute red brested robin,she will look much cuter with longer hair.

 
At 3:03 PM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure I bet knowing and telling someone how a tornado forms and explaining the skewed-t WILL SAVE LIVES??? Tell me about vorticity and helicity and how bright the red is on the doppler, BUT FACT IS......THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND A RADAR AND KNOWING WHERE THE HELL YOU ARE IS ALL YOU NEED. TAKE YOUR AMS AND NWS SEALS OFF THE WALL AND SHOW THEM 2 ME, AND I WILL SHOW YOU A FOOL THAT WASTED $250.00. Arkansas hires Mets from anywhere but Arkansas, why is that? If life is soooo important,and don't tell me it's looks. The only weather guy in LR that has that is Ned the soap oprea star. HIRE ARKANSAS TALENT, if there is any.

 
At 4:16 PM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We don't need weather... we need hot chicks. If you wanna know what the weather is like, look outside! Piece out !

 
At 6:12 PM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In two years will people remember that they "missed their favorite tv show" or "That Nov outbreak with the F-3s"??? You'll hear the complaints, but the proof is in the book.

People want breaking news coverage (wx, car chases, etc..)& they'll watch it until it's over. Ask the mets in OKC.

And for you "they're not confirmed crybabies" Now 8 have been confimed with 2 F3s.

 
At 6:38 PM, November 29, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Piece" out?

You're an idiot.

 
At 6:46 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess I'm a fool with my AMS seal...that 250.00 has been a great bargaining chip when it came to contract negotiations. Are you bitter because you were not able to get your seal? What's with you and hiring arkansas talent...last time I checked, tv talent usually is required to have all of their teeth and an education...get a clue

 
At 7:19 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are TWO Native Arkansans that are meteorologists that work in the LR Market. Can you name them? By the way, Ned is not an Arkansan.

 
At 7:38 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way... the two Arkansans that are METS do have ALL of their teeth and at least one has both the AMS & NWA seal. To the bitter MET who wrote the above... if in fact you are working at a local station, be careful. The people of Arkansas maybe a bit backwards in your eyes, but they are smart enough to see right through you and your condescending attitude... you will not be here for very long.

 
At 7:48 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure I bet knowing and telling someone how a tornado forms and explaining the skewed-t WILL SAVE LIVES??? Tell me about vorticity and helicity and how bright the red is on the doppler, BUT FACT IS......THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND A RADAR AND KNOWING WHERE THE HELL YOU ARE IS ALL YOU NEED. TAKE YOUR AMS AND NWS SEALS OFF THE WALL AND SHOW THEM 2 ME, AND I WILL SHOW YOU A FOOL THAT WASTED $250.00. Arkansas hires Mets from anywhere but Arkansas, why is that? If life is soooo important,and don't tell me it's looks. The only weather guy in LR that has that is Ned the soap oprea star. HIRE ARKANSAS TALENT, if there is any.

I can't stand these know it alls who think they can do weather or think they know what they are talking about when they haven't had a stitch of meteorological education.

It's like getting a lawyer to perform open heart surgery. People may not know what helicity, vorticity or a SKEW-T (not skewed-t you moron), but that knowledge is what will be the difference between life and death. Geography is important..anyone can read a map that has any good sense, but you can't just open a book and learn meteorology in 2 or 3 minutes.

As far as hiring Arkansas talent...THERE ISN'T ANT.

 
At 8:02 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, I'm sure you can tell me how long I'll be here. You never told us if you had your AMS seal..you keep talking about these other 2 native Arkansas mets..that's a pretty pathetic ratio of Arkansas talent! We all understand you're proud of your Arkansas heritage, so spare us from your soapboxlecture.

 
At 8:23 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's like getting a lawyer to perform open heart surgery"
Doing the weather is almost as easy as being a waiter, but less walking and talking. Boy thank God you looked at the skew-t, you would have never been able to tell where or how strong that tornado was....HAHA
You Arkansas fake weather people have been miling the market for years. Just keeping praying for clear sky's so you don't have to zoom the dopplar and tell me via street level mapping where the strom is headed. It just proves by last weekend that the LR talent pool for METS is WEAK. JUST A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT CAN'T MOVE-ON. DON'T WASTE ARKANSAN'S LIVES AND TIME. GO BACK TO THE NE AND GIVE ME A SNOW AMOUNT.

 
At 8:32 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeremy (Baker) looks forward to his time in Arkansas and is ready for whatever Mother Nature has to offer.

What was this dude thinking? I agree with the above poster, Fox 16 hires only on seals and school games. Why not hire an Arkansan and pull local viewer to a weahter guy that REALLY knows the state.

 
At 8:33 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You didn't get the pun of "piece out?" Seems that critical poster is the idiot.

 
At 8:42 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

is that all you can say Jeremy? Piece you suck

 
At 8:45 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is Jeremy ? And that "you suck" comment was really witty.

 
At 8:55 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"yeah, I'm sure you can tell me how long I'll be here. You never told us if you had your AMS seal..you keep talking about these other 2 native Arkansas mets..that's a pretty pathetic ratio of Arkansas talent! We all understand you're proud of your Arkansas heritage, so spare us from your soapboxlecture."


Actually I was wrong... there are three. I guess the ratio went up a little. My bad. If in fact you know all there is to know about everything there is to know, why don't you throw some names my way.

Oh, and speaking of soap box lecture... why don't YOU practice that bit advice you passed along to me. Oh wait... I forgot... you're better than the rest of us. So that entitles you.

 
At 9:08 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You Arkansas fake weather people have been miling the market for years. Just keeping praying for clear sky's so you don't have to zoom the dopplar and tell me via street level mapping where the strom is headed."

Is a "strom" a native Arkansas term...I guess us "educated" folks from outside the area don't understand. Yes the fake arkansas weather people continue to hold jobs that the native arkansas mets dream of getting. Texas has plenty of small markets, go find a job there.

 
At 9:10 AM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Actually I was wrong... there are three. I guess the ratio went up a little. My bad. If in fact you know all there is to know about everything there is to know, why don't you throw some names my way."



Please answer the question, do you have an AMS seal? What names do you want.....

 
At 12:22 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, I had to get back to my real life and didn't answer your previous question which was: Do I have an AMS? Well, Maybe I do and maybe I don't. Maybe I also have the NWA, and then again maybe I don't. I might also be a local chapter member of the AMS/NWA. But according to you, it wouldn't matter anyway because If I'm from Arkansas, I automatically have a lack of talent and knowledge in weather... even if I had both Seals, a degree and experience to boot. So I'll just leave it, It doesn't matter. All that I asked was that you name the three local weather people that are Native Arkansans, I know of two of them that do have the AMS Seal. You should have read my previous a little more closely... I'm hungry, let's go for pizza.

 
At 12:54 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If memory serves me right, Shea Rial got fired for ignoring the weather warnings just like Ed did Sunday night. Ed is a terrible meteorologist.

 
At 1:51 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, I'm taking a stab at the native Arkansan mets in the market. I know that Tom Brannon is a native, and he holds both the AMS and NWA seal, but for some reason the weather on THV is all about ED, which I don't get. Ed is boring and acts like he doesn't really care anymore. The new guy on 7 I think is a native, but I don't know if he holds the seals. I don't know who the third native is.

 
At 1:53 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Shea got fired because he went on the air and said the sirens were a false alarm and they should be ignored.

Big difference....

As for the mets...I know Mayo but who are the other two? Yakobon or whatever the new weekend gomer's name is at seven.

and by the way, Fire Houston Nutt.

Man these word verifications are getting longer. Either that or I'm getting drunker.

 
At 1:54 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any KATV reporters ask victims for a hair dryer?

 
At 1:58 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Brannon grew up in Cabot, now lives in Little Rock. Melinda Mayo grew up in Pine Bluff. Who else?

 
At 2:41 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone tell me that KLRT did not just fake tornado footage for Julia Grayson's piece last night. Go to there website and watch. They show a tornado that they say hit Conway County. If memory serves me, the tornado hit at night. No where does she say a tornado "like" this one. Nope. Just a super over the tornado that says Conway County. Nice work.

 
At 3:08 PM, November 30, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can tell youthat is NOT the tornado that hit the Plumerville area. Reason why I know...it was dark outside when it hit!

 
At 8:07 AM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to KATY the Channel 7 Daybreak/Weather dog? Haven't heard about the dog in a long time on the air.

There was a waste of viewer's time in having them vote on the name when in fact the name was pre-determined.

 
At 8:07 AM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weathercasters don't need an AMS seal... although it would be nice if they had a 34D.

 
At 9:42 AM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the very last poster, if your so-called "logic?" holds, then we would not need ex-Hogs to lend their so-called expertise to Razorback football coverage. I'd rather see ladybacks and Hog cheerleaders doing the sports. But sports isn't science, meteorology is. That's why TV meteorologists have certification and seals.

 
At 9:43 AM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the very last poster, if your so-called "logic?" holds, then we would not need ex-Hogs to lend their so-called expertise to Razorback football coverage. I'd rather see ladybacks and Hog cheerleaders doing the sports. But sports isn't science, meteorology is. That's why TV meteorologists have certification and seals.

 
At 10:20 AM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous d said...

I didn't know that Mayo was a real met. By the way she does weather, doesn't act like it. Thought she was more a "weather girl" than a professional.

 
At 11:06 AM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Melinda IS a meteorologist. Like many, her degree is from Mississippi State. People use the term "met" because they either can't, don't want to try, or don't want to take the time to spell meteorologist.

 
At 12:40 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's not a degree - it's a "certification", and Mississippi State hands them out like they're drivers licenses.

 
At 12:49 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mets need certification... that's SO funny and must come from a met. Here's what you do... stand in front of the camera and point at the radar. Tell which way the storm is moving (usually eastward)... then update the radar. On more calm days, give general estimates of the temperature. Wow, that's tough.

 
At 12:51 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spelling? Who needs to spell on TV? Just give us a hot babe in a tight sweater, standing in front of the radar. You mets take yourselves way too seriously.

 
At 2:14 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So do all you so called "know it all" critics! By the way, I'm not a met, I'm a viewer, that's right a civilian! My dollars pay your sponsors, which pay your overinflated illiterate egos to look pretty and be stupid on TV. So do us all a favor and have a coke and a smile and shut up!

 
At 3:24 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny! My drivers license took 30min, my DEGREE from MSU took 4 years.

 
At 3:59 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's not a degree - it's a "certification", and Mississippi State hands them out like they're drivers licenses.

GO GET YOU ONR THEN, IT'S JUST AS HARD AS OKLAHOMA OR PENN STATE, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE BABES TO LOOK AT OR A TEACHER TO HELP YOU. IT'S ALOT HARDER THAN YOU THINK.

 
At 5:03 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weather is hard:

Step 1 - get the NWS report.

Step 2 - stand and point.

Step 2 - say "Back to you!"

 
At 5:29 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how many journalists are certified in journalism... Oh that's right there aren't any. Some don't even have college degrees, just the ability to drop the word allegedly before anything the PIO spoon feeds.

 
At 11:07 PM, December 01, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Met,

Hi, it's us - the uncertified journalists. We're the ones you see running around your fishbowl, or as we like to call it, "the newsroom". I know it seems like we use silly words like allegidly, and otherwise seem to pace in circles around your fishbowl. But look just a little closer - we're not actually pacing - we're trying to get that story on air. I know it's hard to believe, but we actually come in around 9:00 or 9:30 and worked a full day. During said day we went out and shot a package, a VO/Sot, and walked a couple of "perps" outside the police station. We took a 15 minute lunch today, but now we have indigestion, because we have to write, voice, and edit that package inside of a couple of hours. I know it's hard to image someone showing up more than a couple of hours before the first show, but that's what we do everyday.

 
At 1:57 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Reporter,

Unless your 20, you shouldn't be editing or shooting your own packages? Unless, oh no, your not that good? Don't be mad that you didn't go into weather. Maybe you can be a producer? you shouldn't be reading get back to work, everyones tuned in to see your 2 min package, NOT WEATHER.

 
At 3:30 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

research shows that most people watch local news for weather...sorry reporters, that's the way it is. I would rather watch a degreed meteorologist than some pretender ripping and reading the weather circus. I'll admit, on a day with no weather, yeah you can get by with just personality; however, when a severe weather outbreak happens or some challenging weather story, that's when the training and education becomes important, you can't just point and smile and get through it.

 
At 8:25 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best worthless post ever.

 
At 9:30 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Your Elementary English Teacher said...

Anonymous said...
Dear Reporter,

Unless your 20, you shouldn't be editing or shooting your own packages? Unless, oh no, your not that good? Don't be mad that you didn't go into weather. Maybe you can be a producer? you shouldn't be reading get back to work, everyones tuned in to see your 2 min package, NOT WEATHER.

1:57 AM

I've got an idea, why don't you learn basic grammar - ass.

 
At 10:09 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Reporter,

"Unless your 20, you shouldn't be editing or shooting your own packages? Unless, oh no, your not that good? Don't be mad that you didn't go into weather. Maybe you can be a producer? you shouldn't be reading get back to work, everyones tuned in to see your 2 min package, NOT WEATHER."

Not that I wasn't speaking for the photographers as well, but sometimes we do go out with them when they're rolling tape. Sometimes we even ask questions, and sometimes we work with the photographers to build the story. Sometimes we're on the phone trying to set up our next interview.

 
At 10:19 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As the great Sgt. hulka would say, "Lighten up, Francis"

 
At 10:43 AM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Best worthless post ever"

I'd love to see your work junior

 
At 12:56 PM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worst response ever.

 
At 3:21 PM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the reporter who said they only have a "couple of hours" to shoot, write and edit their story; what are you complaining about?

Most reporters in this town (LR) are only required to fill a minute and a half report and have it ready after their eight hour shift.

You should know that most of the higher markets require two "packages" and they like to cover the little stuff on the way to your shoot. Get used to it and quite whinig.

 
At 3:39 PM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not whining or comlaining. I like my job. I'm just saying that weather guys don't have near as much to do in comparison.

Someone should tell them to keep their heads down, or someone upstairs is going to figure that out, and start making them do "weather reporting". I hear that idea is making waves in other markets too. Since weather is why viewers tune in, right? :)

Personally, I hope it doesn't come to that, it would be a little painful to watch Brett put a story together.

 
At 4:16 PM, December 02, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

...they like to cover the little stuff on the way to your shoot.

3:21 PM

Generally this so called "little stuff" is covered by the photogs - solo.

 
At 1:38 PM, December 03, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi yall this is the
KATV "Met" here i would like to say stop -picking ok KATV and we do our best!

 
At 2:49 AM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This post is both funny and sad.

 
At 4:17 AM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is pretty sad that most of the people posting on this post are in the business. Most of the people that read this blog are not in TV. I am embasrassed for most of you acting like teenagers and being so petty. Realize that viewers are reading this and seeing how childish a lot of you are and grow up. This is not the lunch room in high school. Set a good example

 
At 6:40 AM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bite me.


All businesses are like this.

 
At 8:13 AM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The previous poster just confirms what most people already know...there is a difference between TV reality and REAL LIFE.

Laughing at you...

Bwahahahahahahaha

 
At 11:50 AM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Katv need a new set of doves these set of doves need to retire!

 
At 12:50 PM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

KATV's doves are like cold fish.

 
At 8:06 PM, December 06, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

QUOTE: Mets need certification... that's SO funny and must come from a met. Here's what you do... stand in front of the camera and point at the radar. Tell which way the storm is moving (usually eastward)... then update the radar. On more calm days, give general estimates of the temperature. Wow, that's tough.

THERE ARE REALLY SOME IGNORANT AND RETARDED PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG...YOU GUYS NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME.

 
At 8:13 AM, December 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So prove me wrong... why can't any idiot give a reasonable forecast with NWS info, radar and a great rack? Put up or shut up, bud.

 
At 12:38 PM, December 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jancey sheets on KARK look way better than Beth Hunt and all of the other old doves at KATV and Beth Hunt's nose is getting way out their!

 
At 2:12 PM, December 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote: So prove me wrong... why can't any idiot give a reasonable forecast with NWS info, radar and a great rack? Put up or shut up, bud.

Let me ask you this...in YOUR job do you just copy and paste or are you actually CREATIVE and come up with your own ideas? As a meteorologist I will never take credit for anyone elses work. It is too easy and it shows laziness. I take pride in creating my own forecast by using all of the tools I received while in college and through experience. And if you are just good enough you can nail the forecast more often than the NWS. Who says THEY are so perfect that THEY are the ones to copy off of? No thanks. I'll create my own forecast. But unless you are a meteorologist you are like a cat on the outside of a fishbowl...you'll never see into our world and that's just fine with me....

 
At 6:41 AM, December 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as the consultants say you need Meteorologist with degrees and seals, I'm going to to stand in front of my green wall and make big bucks while reading the NWS forecast.

You're just jealous you didn't think of it.

 
At 3:43 AM, May 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just surfing through, and I'm sure someone will see this comment at some point in the future, but I want to clarify some things:

When the tornado event happened at the end of February, 2001, we had almost complete equipment failure at KTHV. The station management , knew it, and new equipment was on the way, though they did not wish to admit it at the time! This led to an error in the reporting of a "Tornado Warning", which is different than reporting a tornado. Thus, KTHV was unable to report a tornado WARNING.

Incidentally, when this happened, KTHV had about a week to respond about whether or not they wished to renew my contract for a fourth year. Lead indicators for quite a while had been that they did not wish to renew. This event gave a convenient out, by the way, so my dismissal had nothing to do with failure to report a tornado, warning, or the actual report of equipment failure. It had to do with them wanting to replace me as talent on the air, as they have done so many times through the years with adjunct talent (i.e. those working on the weekends). Please be clear about that.

Sincerely,

Shea Rial
Little Rock, AR

 
At 8:27 PM, May 18, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

-- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/12/2001
Underreporting severe weather has its risks, too. A Little Rock, Ark., weekend weatherman was fired after telling viewers not to worry about tornado warnings on other stations and from emergency service sirens.

Shea Rial was first suspended, then lost his job at KTHV-TV , because of that late-February performance, which included an apology blaming the misreading on faulty equipment. But the station said that, although one of several machines used in weather forecasting was malfunctioning, there was more than enough other evidence to have properly reported the danger to the community, especially for a skilled meteorologist like Rial.

Mark Raines, news director at the Gannett-owned CBS affiliate, said it is station policy not to comment on personnel issues but the station "received a lot of calls from viewers who couldn't believe we dropped the ball. Neither could I. We take weather coverage very seriously here. This could have put someone's life in danger."

 
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