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posted by ATN @ 11:54 AM
Okay, this is getting ridiculous. They have way too much air time for their "news" which isn't even much news. In a given weekday, they air news 430-700, 700-730, 11-12 now, 5-530, 600-700, 900-1000, 1000-1035. CRAZY. Word on the street, their 4:30 news is pulling in good numbers do they might start at 4AM. Also heard a 4PM news could be in the works, possibly on KPXJ.
LoL... So what are the replacing? The View reruns? Guess they figure they'll keep those sales avails for themselves. Seriously though... if it's local sales avails, they can't seem to sell the local avails they already have. I've never seen a station with as much local "image & branding promos" run as much as on KTBS. They can argue that these are promotions strategy but that's hogwash. KTBS gets stuck on a spot rate and often won't budge. That's why you see so damn many station promos and image spots on 3. Another case of management reaching over dollars to grab pennies.
Bye Bye Morning Guy!!!
So now Ed is leaving too? We do not have enough news to justify KTBS having 7 1/2 hours of daily news. Now they are adding an additional 30-60 minutes of news on top of that? Can you say over saturation?
Seriously? KTBS is on to much and now your adding more time? Whateveerrrr.
Guess they think they'll make or save money by extending news to avoid paying any syndication fees. But as someone said here earlies, they don't sellout the spot times they got. I think they run too many station promos which leads me to think they don't sell the time they have already.
Can someone from KTBS confirm or deny that Ed Walsh is leaving please.
Guess on-air staff will need to move cots & sleepers in their cubicles so they won't miss their shift.
Chest implants for some, makeovers for others and newbies yet to come. Get ready and yes Morning Guy will not be renewed. Bye bye MG
I would hate to see Ed go, he's one of the best in this market. But I knew it was only a matter of time when he and other KTBSers would get tired of being run ragged, and then pushed some more.
Good luck Ed. Hope your next station is not a sweat shop like KTBS has become.
Indeed, definitely not a good place to work any more. The way it is going I can envision KTBS having live news when not in network.
Does anyone know when Ed's last day will be and where will he be going?
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Ed has left town
Ed is in NOLA doing Isaac coverage. WIll he be back after this or is he already gone for good?
Ed worked in Nola before. He should go back. It's a good city despite storms.
Ah, noooo it's not. I'm a NOLA native and I've lived here since Katrina. Almost everything is better here in the Shreveport-Bossier. Your houses are cheaper and much bigger with bigger lots then they are in NOLA. Homeowners and auto insurance is cheaper here. You can trust you neighbors here. Groceries and appliances are cheaper here. The public schools here are better then the private schools I was paying for in NOLA. The only things NOLA is better on are the nightlife, the food, and the fresh seafood that was caught that day.
@ 7:48 I agree with your assessment. I am also a New Orleans native and been here 14 or 15 years, and I to miss the food as well. Everything you pointed out is correct, however, you forgot two very important issues. This area does not even come close to having the crime or drama New Orleans does. I am sure that is something neither one of us miss.
But the crime and drama make good newscasts, right?
It may make for good newscasts, but trust me, you do not want to live in it.So what's this about Ed leaving? Give us the when, where, and why.
If it happens, maybe they'll do a Rick Rowe send-off / tribute.
Thats a given.
Wonder what will happen when Rick Rowe gets the boot or quits? Will he do a self-tribute? Of course some say he's been that for years? ;)
I am sure it's already in the can ready to go.
I guess they may do like THV is doing now and putting a "paid programming" spot to fill the last ten minutes of their Noon show.Same thing KARK is doing to fill the last ten minutes of their second half of their Noon show.Hey, if you can't fill it with a show, let the viewers watch an infomercial or two.
George will not allow that to happen. The 3;00 look live spots yes, but only if they meet his rate. Otherwise they will fill with content and branding spots.
Reaching over dollars to grab pennies.
You know it.
Gorge needs to be replaced.
George needs to be replaced.
What gets me is that Edwin with all his SMU biz-school bkgrd and all, why he doesn't look at the ratio of unsold avails vs sold and look at the REAL COST OF GOODS SOLD. I mean he and the other Wrays would shit-nickels if they ran the numbers, did the ratios and added up the math at how much unsold inventory was going out due to so-called rate integrity. But instead they simply look at the quarterlies and what's in their deposits each month. Missing the whole picture. Either they really don't care or they really are that stupid.
4:52pm I think you had it right the first time. Gorge seems to fit.
@7:11 PM"Either they really don't care or they really are that stupid." You answered your own question.
I really don't see the value to viewers in this so-called expanding of the newscasts. I've watched both KSLA and KTBS versions of expanded news and they both really drag. It's as if they need to stretch out the weather tease-casts to help fill out the blocks. Maddening.Then there's the newsbits they take from network or CNN or whatever satellite service they use which have no real info-value as far as a local newscast is concerned. I get bored with the filler pretty fast as it has nothing to do with local or regional. Can't imagine this keeping audience share for long.
Saw the KTBS news yesterday and they blew it bigtime with a few VOSOT / reads, miscues, etc. Apparently someone didn't get incues/outcues correctly, instead reading copy after the video rolled. Awkward!!This is happening with greater frequency the more they seem to rely on filler from the net.
Is Ed really leaving or is this another rumor like the one last month in which some people said Tim Fletcher was leaving to run the NW Hall of Fame program?
I think the Ed Walsh leaving thing is a rumor. He's too cozy with management and honestly where would he go?
Another rumor is some employees are bracing for another massive layoff. Gonna get rid of some oldtimers...
@11:50 AMIf that happens it will not be the first or the last time. KTBS has a long history of getting rid of people of who reach a "certain age" or have more then 10-20 years of seniority.
@11:50 AM stated in part: "KTBS has a long history of getting rid of people of who reach a "certain age" or have more then 10-20 years of seniority."If that is the case, will someone please explain why Jan Elkins, Rick Rowe, Ed Walsh and Gerry May are still at KTBS?
Even Hitler had his favorites.
Jan has pics of management with small woodland creatures.
Hitler? Small woodland creatures? Someones been watching my show. Sweeeet.
Jan has 2 years of experience 15 times.
Jan was already working there before you were born.
Jan the MAN!! Didn't she get canned from being KTBS News Director because she wouldn't do pre-storm coverage the night Katrina hit New Orleans? That alone would've been reason enough to send her (or anyone) packing. Why she is still at KTBS is a mystery as she really wasn't all that good a reporter or easy on the eyes either.
The Wray's will not allow that. Jan will be there long after you are gone.
LoL Wouldn't be too sure about that 3:25pm. Jan's pretty ancient.
If you live long enough one day you will be Jan's age having 20 somethings bitching you too.
U must be the founding member of the I like Jan Fanclub. Either that or you're a member of the Wray family.
Sometimes something is so spot-on that it deserves to be repeated:1:53 PM, September 12, 2012Anonymous said... Jan the MAN!! Didn't she get canned from being KTBS News Director because she wouldn't do pre-storm coverage the night Katrina hit New Orleans? That alone would've been reason enough to send her (or anyone) packing. Why she is still at KTBS is a mystery as she really wasn't all that good a reporter or easy on the eyes either.6:26 PM 09/12/2012 -- Telling it how it was and how it is is not "bitching", and I am not in my 20's. Since Jan has been known to speak at women's church groups, I do not believe she would appreciate the term "bitching" associated with her name.
@3:40 No, I am not a founding member of the Jan fan club. Nor am I a member of the Wray family. I am however, a former KTBS coworker who is very grateful I do not work at that horrible place any more.
All I know is whenever there's a promo featuring Jan on KTBS, my dogs howl and my cats run and hide.
Maybe your cats and dogs should watch 6 or 12 instead.
Or maybe 3 could stop running Jan promos? My dogs & cats add more Nielsen eyes in the diary.
So your cats and dogs have their own tv's for Nielsen?
Any ratings guesstimates on the new expanded 11:00 yet?
I hope expanding the news for an hour will not give us more Dan Walters commercials. Does Rountree have any idea what a buffoon this guy is?
Evidently not.About a year or two before Rountree Ford took over Champion Ford, they had fired Dan Walters because his production company over bought. I don't know how all the other stations made out, but my station was paid 1/3 by Champion Ford, 1/3 by Dan Walters Productions, and the final 1/3 we had to eat. Evidently they don't learn from their mistakes.
Dan "Bobble-Head" Walters has left a path of questionable practices with other dealers. He first showed up on ArkLaTex TV when he handled Tv ads for an Atlanta Texas car dealership that went bankrupt about a year after his ad buys. Some folks speculate the ad costs helped them go out of business as they were taken in by DW's schmooze. He comes off as the type of car salesman you want to avoid. Not a good brand for a biz I'd think.
I tend to agree with the last few posters. I usually go to the remote and find another channel whenever I see Dan Walters commercials. His gimmick seems so '60 ish.
We always called Dan "plastic man" and Eva Harvey "plastic women." Remember when they teamed up and did a few commercials together? They were creepy and slimmy at the same time.
It's weird how Car-pitchmen/women are in this market. You either get the "over-the-top" types like Dan Walters or Ava Harvey and another gal who did the Izsuzu. Or the skinny blond gals with odd-hairstyles and fake boobs. Of course we had Tommy Harvey who came here fat, then got really skinny and then got fat again. I will say Yokem Toyota has a normal-sounding pitchman, same one for years. And let's not forget the dealers who always show their daughters, kids, family... oh boyee!
It's not a local thing, nor is it limited to car dealers. There are all those crappy commercials from Texarkana. What about that one where the lady is about to make out with the granite counter tops? Creepy! I'll take a former beauty queen spokeswomen any time over that crap.
Give Denny Rogers a couple more years and he will also be in the Dan Walters category.
At least Denny appears genuine, ol' Dan Walters has that schmarmy carnival Vegas Pimp style of schmooze that seems creepy. Looks like a male version of Shari Warren with all the bad suit and over-the-top tanning booth orange skin. Yuck!
Yeah, I agree. Denny seems to be a nice guy. However, I wouldn't believe anything Dan Walters says.
What about Chris' three minute look lives at the end of the 9:00? They could always use those to fill the 11:00.
Yeah, Chris loves his look lives. He's been doing them for years. Since Rountree are a bunch of a'holes I guess it stands to reason they would have a major a'hole as their pitchman.
Doesn't Rountree have KTAL Weatherman Patrick Dennis do TV Spots for them too? Isn't that a conflict of interest? Thought TV news & weather people had to be prohibited from doing such stuff like that from a potential ethics liability.
Patrick Dennis does commercials for Rountree Lincoln Mercury. Dan Walters does commercials for Rountree Ford. No that's not a conflict of interest, and many others done commercials for years. Former KSLA anchor Sheri Warren did commercials for Claude DeBeaux Ford in Vivian for about 20 years, and several other companies while she worked at KSLA. Former KSLA sports director Bob Griffin did commercials for Ivan Smith. Former KSLA and current KTAL anchor Michelle White also did commercials for Ivan Smith long after she was back on air at KTAL.
Geez most of the people mentioned above are some of the most ethically-challenged folks in local broadcast history. So I guess it sort of underscores 2:15PM's comments. I've lived in other markets and I know that newsfolks aren't allowed to do commercial spots while employed at a station. Must be a bush-league Shreveport thang!
Must be because Sheri Warren started doing those Claude DeBeaux commercials 30 years ago.
In an earlier post someone stated pay is not good in broadcasting so it stands to reason some of these people mention just may have been trying to make an extra buck....
6:54 AM has it right. Not sure about the others, but in Patrick's case he opened his production company to get alway from James Smith and all the crap that was, and still is, going on at KSLA. Things were going fine then the economy tanked, so he took the morning met position at KTAL to supplement his income. Plus it left Patrick the rest of the day to do his production work.
Well at J-school 101, pay-for-play and accepting money for commercial endorsement totally destroys your journalistic credibility. It doesn't matter if you do weather, sports, news-prompter reading or stand-ups on the street corner. The value of your news-brand is questionable because each time you appear in a commercial, you're saying: "I'm for Sale!" and I'll say anything for a buck. If you need more money, then maybe local TV news ain't for you. Go sell cars!
10:44 we are selling cars. If it were not for the local and national car buys none of us would have a job, and the local stations would not be in business.
10:44 we are selling cars. If it were not for the local and national car buys none of us would have a job, and the local stations would not be in business.
I think the poster was referring to the actual going out and being a salesperson as opposed to being a spokesmodel. Commercial TV stations obviously sell a lot of things (DUH)...if it weren't for David Cook and his monotone daughters, many a salesgoal wouldn't be made. News people as paid spokespersons is simply ethically wrong. If they're for sale, how can we take them as serious newspeople or the station as a serious news outlet for that matter?
Don't forget "that nice young man with the hat" or Ivan Smith. They've picked up inventory Morris Bart used to buy from us.
Who is more annoying - Dan Walters or Jimmy Granger's daughter?
You got us on that one.
It's a tie.
Ohh boy... does this ever hit a nerve! I wish I had a dollar for everytime a production client wanted to use a relative in a commercial. 4 out of 5 times it was usually their kids, niece or nephew, grandbabies, etc. 99% of the time adding the kids had nothing to do with the product/service/message. It was just so all the relatives could coo & giggle each time their "precious progeny" would appear on camera. I'd hear more negative comments from the viewing public than anything else. Dear clients: nobody gives a rat's ass about your kids or grandbabies except your relatives and suck-ups. Unless your offspring really has some talent and adds to your message, 86 the idea and let the experts do their job.
12:11 I couldn't agree with you any more. This kids and grandkids in commercials issue has been a thorn in my side for years. The advertisers who do this have no idea how much the public can't stand them and how unprofessional they are. Jimmy Granger's daughter isn't alone in the annoying department. There are plenty of advertisers who are just as bad. Snyder Floor Covering with the daughter who wore to much makeup and jewelry for a girl her age. Then they moved on the little granddaughter. There was Rawls Furniture with their son with the mispronounced named who could barely speak. Thankfully some of these folks have improved and started using professional talent. Not someone they have on an a weekly allowance.
Has anyone ever told Jimmy Granger and others who use their relatives how unprofessional their commercials are? Or, is it just as long as they spend their money on advertising, that's all that matters to the news stations?
2:47 PM, Hah!! I can tell you from experience that whatever the CLIENT WANTS is what happens. I have had to bite my tongue so many times, it's a wonder I still have it! The unwritten rule is that when it comes to using family members for talent: Clients are Clueless!! Ego is what drives most of the family-owned businesses that I've had the fun in dealing with. Forget sound, practical business practices... ego supersedes all logic in most cases. Look at who advertises locally. The Cook Law Firm ads always sound and appear retarded. You should've seen the old ones from a few years ago. Christ the talent sucked beyond belief!! Nope... local bidness folks don't want professional advice, they just want things done their way.Boss-hogs rule and always will.
Oh yeah, this brings back a lot of bad memories with various advertisers. Years ago we had Ashton Wilkes of Ashton's Furniture, and Arthur Tate of Tate Shreveport Dodge acting as their own talent. Both started the same "Hi I'm Ashton Wilkes" and "Hi I'm Arthur Tate." They were awful. That was 20 years and nothing has changed. Who came up with those horrible Brewer's spots? They have KMSS' stink all over them. Whoever came up with that was either drunk, stoned, or both.
Brewer's actually is buying airtime?!! Wow! I must not watch the programs they run these in because I've never seen a Brewer's Spot. You are talking the mobile home guys, right? Years ago, I remember TV ad-sales folks saying they would never buy a schedule. They must be on really late at night because I never see anything...either they're doing a trade or the spots must be mucho-Cheap-O!
Hey everyone, don't forget those LaRue furniture commercials. Remember how he was screaming the entire commercial like some damn drunk fool?
Oh yeah, those LaRue's spots were awful. They reminded me of those stupid Shoe Town commercials with Crazy George. 8:03 Yes, Brewer's is buying time. I think its just with KMSS or KTAL. I don't remember which. Those Brewer's spots are teeth grinding, blood pressure popping horrible.
Does anyone know how to set up a poll for all of us to vote on the worst local commercials?A) Dan WaltersB) Jimmy GrangerC) BrewerD) LaRue
Didn't Bennett Rinaudo produce those LaRue spots? Had his "feel" all over it.
I think he did but not 100% sure. 9:08 I vote C D A B.
Bennett used to also do the voice for the night club, "The Mali Boooooo", Remember that one?Speaking of Bennett, where is he now?
Where ever Bennett is, he should stay there. Thanks for reminding me about those Malibu spots. I would grinding my teeth every time they ran.Do any of you remember the commercial for "Uncle Buggers Bumper Bucket?"
Don't forget that crazy coot who does the Milam Kars Commercials. That guy needs his meds adjusted.
You're right, Bennett used to also do the La Ruuuuuu's commercials.To me, Bennett was more entertaining and not obnoxious and annoying like some of the other pitchmen that have been discussed in previous posts.
Have to disagree with you on that. Not a fan of Bennett or his "work".
I was in a meeting where some business people were part of a group effort to promote a non-profit. During the meeting the lady who was chairing the effort said she was getting Bennett Rinaudo to handle the marketing and advertising. Two people objected and said they were no longer going to participate if that was the case and walked out. Apparently they had some history with him and said they wouldn't be associated with anything he was affiliated with. First time I saw anyone do that in a public setting.
What has Bennett done (did) that has pissed so many people off? Is he still in advertising/promotions?(I have never met him, so I'm just curious after reading some of the previous posts.)
Mr. Rinaudo has been in advertising biz in various capacities for serveral years. He is better known for schmooze and hyperbole and gets clients but seems to always "step in it" regarding delivering what he promises. To be generous, the general consensus among those who have experienced his handiwork is a lack of credibility and questionable ethics. That aside, you can stay in business as long as you keep finding new (lazy) clients who fail to "ask around". Such is how the ad business has historically been in Shrevesburg/Bossierville.
I guess, though, when you really stop and think about it, those horrible and/or stupid and/or annoying commercials must work. That's all we have been talking about in this thread. Even though they are bad, they must still be fairly effective.
Like Bjork's swan dress at the Academy Awards, people may remember these bad commercials, but that doesn't mean they are effective. It's impossible to count all the people I've known who refused to business with some of these advertisers mentioned in these previous posts because of their commercials.
It's all about what's your branding message... if your spots are annoying then it doesn't speak well for brand image. Shrevesburg has never been a really sophisticated advertising market as local businesses really have never had much competition until the last 10 years as the local economy picked up with new shopping centers and national chains. Think back when the casinos came to town and how much hell the local restaurant owners raised over the cheap buffets. Instead of improving their product, the local restaurant assn. tried to get regional legislators to pass laws prohibiting casinos from offering too many comps and cheaper food prices as "unfair competition". Typical Shreveport mentality. Local advertisers have kept things cheap-O for years thanks to market conditioning. But nowadays you have to step up and bring your "A" game and that means you can no longer wing-it as seems the case with junk like LaRues and Brewers. But keep in mind these guys are the bottom-feeders of TV Spots, they don't spend much because that's how they've always done business for years and that's their playbook.
Well, well, well, sounds like things in Shreveport haven't changed. I dealt with most of the advertisers mentioned in previous posts and they were, and evidently still, are a bunch of dumb asses. I made a tape of a lot of these commercials you all are complaining about before I left Shreveport. When I show the tape to people in my current market they can't stop laughing. I've had more then one co-worker laughing so hard at these spots they had to run to the restroom. There was such a culture shock moving from the Shreveport market to this market it took me about a year to adjust. I feel for you folks still there in Shreveport dealing with these advertisers. Take it from me. The way things are run in Shreveport are not how they run in other markets. If you get an offer to go to another market take it. You will not regret it. Most especially when you see you bank account jump.
Don't know about anybody else but the spots that grate on my nerves are:COOK LAW FIRM - - WHY IT SUCKS: Deer in headlights, card-reading, school-recital vocal skillsCRAWFISH PALACE - - WHY IT SUCKS:10th Generation Video Dub with chroma saturation, enhanced signal noise, blown levels and pixelation, Voiceover talent NW La. redneck trying to sound like a Cajun accent -- really blows big-time!ANYTHING WITH A LOCAL JINGLE PACKAGE: Helloooo.... the 1970's are looong gone Mr. Karaoke!
All the attorney spots are bad. Remember that paid program "You and the Law with Kirby Kelly?" None of the local attorneys have the ad buys like they used too a few years ago. Morris Bart used to be my stations #1 advertiser. That Crawfish Palace spot is about 12 or 13 years old, and was worn out when it was new. Besides being worn out it also says "The Crawfish Palace on HWY 80 in Bossier City." They are actually in Haughton, not Bossier City.
I'll take the Cook Law firm's commercials any day over the Dan Walters commercials.
Oh Great, I suppose the local Addy Awards should have categories like:"Doesn't Suck as Bad as ...""Sucks but has good intentions""Least Sucky Use of Relatives in a Commercial""Least Offensive among Car Spots""Least Offensive Use of Jingle"If I didn't have to get back to work, I could do this all day!
Good one 2:02. LMAO!
Ha, you nailed it on that on 2:02. They can call them the "Razzie Addies."
I agree with 10:15. One of those female lawyers looks like Marcia Brady from the Brady Bunch. I think she's hot! (Wonder if she is single?)
You don't want to marry a lawyer. Just ask Terry Bradshaw.
I think Bradshaw's problem is that he could never say "no" to a hot piece of tail.
Did you see his wife? She was FINE and there was no need to roam with that at home.
Yeah, be careful with the female attorneys. You piss her off and she will garnish your wages.
Or go off the deep end like Melissa Sugar.
I actually know someone who knows Kelly Cook (Marcia Brady) and they said she really is very nice.
I just heard that Alexandra Cranford is leaving KTBS. Anybody from Channel 3 have any inside scoop about that?
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Someone change her mind. PLEASE! I like her and Rhonda best.
Going to WWL in New Orleans
Gosh will this mean another sappy Rick Rowe send-off?
Of course it does. They were teasing it Tuesday.
I know a lot of folks like Rick Rowe's stories but in most cases, whenever I see one of his sappy segments, I throw up a little in my mouth.:p
Your not alone.
This morning Rick Rowe's "send-off" for Alexandra involved a group of older, possibly retired, men sitting around a table in a cafe discussing what they could do to keep Alexandra at KTBS and/or get her back from WWL. One of the suggestions made by one of the men was to trade Ed and two draft picks for Alexandra! Rick's segment seemed to be aimed more at humor than sap.
2:39 PM said:"...Rick's segment seemed to be aimed more at humor than sap."With Rowe's style, how can you tell the difference?
5:05 PM said:"2:39 PM said: ...Rick's segment seemed to be aimed more at humor than sap."With Rowe's style, how can you tell the difference?"----------------------------------In my opinion, Rowe’s video about Alexandra was not sappy (over sentimental; excessively and objectionably sentimental; mawkish). The piece was an attempt at humor (the tendency of particular cognitive experiences to provoke laughter and provide amusement). I just happened to catch Rowe’s piece on Alexandra this morning, As a general rule, I don’t watch him. What is Rick Rowe’s style?
You may have answered your own question by definition(s). His style can be both Sappy AND Funny (albeit unintentional)
News isn't the only thing "expanding" at KTBS.
My daughter is 24. She did our commercials when she was 6 until age 12. She still doesn't wear make up today.
She didn't then either.
Whoever said "go off the deep end like Melissa Sugar" - HAHAHAHHAHA! That made my day! That crazy lady really did go off the deep end. I thought she disappeared off the face of the earth. Until I saw her at KROGER, wearing a high heel shoe and a flip flop! She had about 10 kids with her, and was obviously in no condition to be driving children anywhere, as she was high out of her mind... So sad to see someone who appeared to be going places, let themselves end up like that. Drugs... Just horrible
I feel bad for her EX HUSBAND(s). I think there are a few of them. The one who probably got the worst of her wrath would be Steve Carby. After him didn't she marry Daryl Gold? I don't think they are still together... she should have stayed with Daryl Gold, who is going to want to be with her now, all old and used up and crazy
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